The Handshake Conversation with Steve Walters and Jason Frederick
Edited by Dan Duffy / Art by Steve Walters and Jason Frederick
Jonathan Toubin Benefit by Jason Wyatt Frederick
On Big Gigs and Respect:
JF: Ever since you helped me get a leg up in the print making, I’ve worked a series of shitty jobs. Some not so shitty. Some more awesome than others.
SW: You’ve had a lot of awesome jobs. You did all that stuff for Chantry, which was huge.
JF: I came to know Art Chantry through someone else. Not through you. But then when Art found out that I knew you, that was kind of a thing. He was like, “Really? I know Steve!” It seems like everyone in the gig posters world knows who you are. You get the tip of the hat.
SW: I’m a lucky man.
JF: Well, you’re a very nice guy. Do you fell as though your niceness has hurt you or helped you?
SW: Well, as we talked about earlier, my niceness caused me to teach other people how to do this and create my own competition. So, every once in a while I gets pangs of pain.
JF: (laughs) “Pangs of pain.”
SW: I’ll think sometimes, “Man, I really would’ve liked that job.” But the overall respect I get from people makes it worthwhile.
JF: You don’t want the hassle of dealing with the Black Keys. Bunch of prima donnas. You don’t want the hassle of dealing with Phish…
JF: Kings of Leon? Seriously. You didn’t want that gig.
SW: I wasn’t jealous of you.
JF: That was a painful…
SW: That was a big gig.
JF: I don’t know if I’m necessarily respected in the printing community—I really don’t know a lot of the people in the printing community—but…
SW: Well, you were respected by the people you were working for there.
JF: Yes. Many told me that it couldn’t be done. When I first came in here and I was like, “Steve, what you think? Do you think I could do 4,000 five-color 18 x 24 inch prints by hand?” You were like, “Don’t do it.”
JF: Dan Grzeca was like, “Pah! You’re retarded.”
SW: (laughs) He says that to all the boys.
JF: But you didn’t laugh at me whenever you would come in and I had been here since 5:30 in the morning.
SW: No, I didn’t think you were dumb. I had done stupid shit like that before.
JF: It turned into a much bigger job than it was at first, though. That’s when my heart started sinking. They originally signed me on for 4,000, and I ended up delivering 8,000. I probably ruined 2,000.
JF: I did like 10,000 prints. Every other person I talked to was like, “Why don’t you just buy a machine?” But yeah. Print making—you can really get into it. It gives me an odd focus, and that feeling at the very, very end when you’re picking up the last one, and it’s like, “Ugh! I’m done!” It’s sort of like finishing a marathon. You know how everything’s moving constantly, and you constantly have to adjust to make sure that this thing’s lining up with that, and this thing’s lining up with that? Keeping everything together. Then, in the end, when you’re finally done, it’s…irreplicable? Irreplicable? (laughs) What’s the word I’m looking for?
JF: You can’t reproduce it. Irreproducable.
SW: Oh, okay.
JF: Words are my armor, Steve.
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